ANIMALS CANNOT GIVE CONSENT
Y.know…flooding my inbox with 10 messages in all caps isn’t going to make me feel guilty, sorry or change my mind about what I think. It will only get you blocked and deleted. Waste your time on someone who cares about knee-jerk capslock statements over well thought out arguments and data. Toodles!
For you metal fans out there. \m/ -_- \m/
So I decided to watch this. It was a pretty interesting documentary.
hey are you Mr Tumnus because i want to faun-icate with you
I had such a crush on him <3
Zoosexuals are just plain attention whores who like to fuck animals for attention or because they’re too fucking ugly to get laid by another human. What they call “zoosexuality” isn’t even a sexuality it’s probably just some sick kink somebody made up for publicity.
We’ve been together for almost 2 years in a poly relationship. I also have a close friend with benefits and I got out on dates with other people about a couple times a month or so. They all know I am zoo.
But, I’m only this way because I am too ugly for people to want me. Not that we should be holding human beings to normalized beauty standards anyways.
This Danish Guy Has Legal Sex with His Dog
It hasn’t been long since the Copenhagen Zoo pissed off the entire internet by turning a young, healthy giraffe named Marius into lion food. But last week, they were at it again,killing four lions to make room for a new male lion.
The zoo’s enthusiasm for culling healthy animals underscores Denmark’s unique approach to animal rights. For example,a it’s illegal to buy a pit bull in the country, but completelylegal to have sex with a dog, or any other animal, as long as you aren’t torturing it. There have been multiple attempts to criminalize zoophilia, but nothing has been done yet—presumably because none of the major political parties seem to think that having sex with animals is that big of a deal.
A number of animal rights groups don’t share the Danish political class’s breezy apathy and have warned that Denmark is becoming a prime destination for animal sex tourism. The thing is, there’s not a lot of evidence to support the activists’ claims—onlysome websites set up by various Danes demanding that lawmakers clamp down on zoophiles and “beasts” (as proponents of bestiality are called by people who know about that sort of thing).
To find out more, I logged onto Beast Forum, a popular zoophilia message board and apparently a great place to go if you want to borrow a dog from a stranger for an evening of consensual love-making. On the boards I met a 29-year-old I’ll call “Michael,” and spoke to him about his country’s attitude towards having sex with animals.
VICE: How did you realize that sex with animals turned you on?
Michael: It started when I was 14 or 15 years old. I grew up in the countryside, so I’d often seen animals mating, and that made me curious.
When did you first act on that curiosity?
A couple of years ago. I’d talked about animal sex with a female friend and she got curious about it. She had her own dog, and one day she let the dog take her. She told me about it the next day, and we went to her place and I got to watch. And, later, to try it myself. The dog looked interested in me, so I let it take me.
What is it about animals that turns you on?
It’s difficult to explain. They’re more honest and, well, more animal-like. If a dog likes you, there’s no doubt about it. Contrary to what people think, an animal can easily say no if it doesn’t want to have sex with you. I guess some animals are just beautiful and lovely to be with.
Which species turn you on in particular?
Mostly dogs. Horses a bit as well. And, with dogs, specifically collies, labradors, and German shepherds. They’re beautiful dogs. Most of my experiences have been with dogs, but I also caressed a mare once.
how is penetrating object(s)/genitalia into the orifices of an animal considered consensual?? like honestly its the same thing as rape and sexual assault. animals cant tell their abuser to stop when they cannot even make any notion for it to be stopped. its disgusting and sick and horrible that there are people doing this type if vile shit. its an insult to the sexual orientation of the lgbtqa+ to have a scientifically proved mental illness for the strange aversion of attraction to animals.
how is penetrating object(s)/genitalia into the orifices of an animal considered consensual??
I’m not entirely sure how I feel about objects being inserted into animals. It could very well end badly considering objects don’t have feeling and you can’t really tell if you are penetrating correctly until the animal shows signs of discomfort. Really soft objects might be OK, but it’s still risky.
Different animals show consent in different ways depending on the species.. When aroused, they will display the mating signs that they would normally show for their own species. It is then up to human involved to make sure that they don’t manipulate, force or otherwise harm the animal in any way during the act. The females usually have to be in estrus before they are comfortable and even then, many female animals are not sexually receptive to penetration from human males, but some are. Also there are other stipulations that tie into being ethical about zoosexuality.
These things include “no small animals”, “no animals that are not sexually mature”, “no penetration of species with incompatible genitalia.”. This is still all very new to this community and I know some zoos are unaccepting of these “rules”, but it’s the only ethical way. We cannot risk injury or death to sentient beings for something we can surely live without.
its the same thing as rape and sexual assault.
Going by Dictionary.com’s definition of rape and Wordnet’s definition of sexual assault, anyone can have sexual contact with a certain amount of animals without overstepping any of those lines presented in the definitions I linked. If you have a link proving that there is flaw with the definitions presented, I’d like to read it.
animals cant tell their abuser to stop when they cannot even make any notion for it to be stopped.
The ol’ “Animals can’t say no.” argument. It’s true, they can’t open their muzzles and speak in clear English (or whatever other language that happens to be your native tongue) and say the exact words “No.” But it should be assumed that the answer is always no until clear mating signs have been displayed anyways. The mating signs are the “Yes.”. And you are probably thinking “many females orgasm during rape”, and that is true. They do. However, mating signs happen BEFORE any touching even occurs. We can’t just walk up to an animal and ask “Hey, you interested in getting sexy?”. An animal wouldn’t know what we were saying unless it were trained to associate sex with a human with a certain phrase. An animal has to see the human as a sexual object, get aroused and give that human the green light.
There is a common argument in the zoo community that generally states “Animals can fight back, bite, claw, etc. and that is how they say no.”. That statement implies that a human would have already have to be touching the animal before the animal tells them to back off. We are in a age where feminism is becoming more noticed and I am glad that it is. It means more people are becoming more aware of what full consent means because the general population still believes that a lack of a “No.”, automatically means yes. Even in my community there are many who believe this and I find it repugnant.
its disgusting and sick and horrible that there are people doing this type if vile shit.
I’ll agree with you that animal brothels are sick and horrible. I’ll agree that the cases you most commonly see are disgusting. But I assure you that the cruelty cases are mostly a matter of cultural lag. After all, how do you explain a spike in teen pregnancies and STIs in southern and midwestern bible belt states? - lack of education and a shunning of sex, especially “deviant sex”.
The digital age zoo community is still quite young. This means that we are still working out the kinks and it means that people will be making many mistakes and hurting animals because they didn’t know of a safer way to do it. I am doing my best to help try and offer knowledge to fellow zoos who want it. I am not a sum of what some other people have done.
its an insult to the sexual orientation of the lgbtqa+ to have a scientifically proved mental illness for the strange aversion of attraction to animals.
Since when do you speak for the entire LGBTQA+ community? I’m agender/trans/FAAB, pansexual and polyamorous. I know of several other queer zoos as well. You don’t speak for me or them when you make that statement.
Also, what you are referring to is zoophilia. Which BTW is not classified as a mental illness unless certain conditions are met. One can still be attracted to animals and even have sexual relations with them without meeting any of those required conditions. Also mental illnesses aren’t proven. Psychoneurosis is provable, but conditions are not.
If you want to debate any of these statements, be my guest.